Comments on: The Rocky Road to Polokwane http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/ The official Web log of Great Decisions 2007 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:13:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.0 by: Mabhelandile http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-701 Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:25:39 +0000 http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-701 I stand on the notion that, Mbeki "accepted" nomination for a third term, not necessarily becoz he wants to do that - but rather becoz he does not want Zuma to head the ANC.Should Zuma win, after his first term in office, he would not have made a dent in the problems we face in this country simply because of the "popularism" stance he has "abused" in getting voted in.Mbeki has never been a populist - but he has done great things for this country and we are Internationally respected because of his acumen.No offence to Zuma, but he will first have to "repay" loyalist like the Mbalulas and Vavis before settling down to the poor man on the street - which I believe will never materialise.How popular is he going to be then? I stand on the notion that, Mbeki “accepted” nomination for a third term, not necessarily becoz he wants to do that - but rather becoz he does not want Zuma to head the ANC.Should Zuma win, after his first term in office, he would not have made a dent in the problems we face in this country simply because of the “popularism” stance he has “abused” in getting voted in.Mbeki has never been a populist - but he has done great things for this country and we are Internationally respected because of his acumen.No offence to Zuma, but he will first have to “repay” loyalist like the Mbalulas and Vavis before settling down to the poor man on the street - which I believe will never materialise.How popular is he going to be then?

]]> by: Derek Catsam http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-692 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:46:09 +0000 http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-692 joeman -- Thanks for reading and writing. Obviously these are serious allegations and I cannot assess their veracity, but if true this is more than a little problematic. But one issue that you raise is the aspect of the delivery of services. Increasingly this, and not loyalty or ideology, will drive ordinary South Africans to push for change. dc joeman –
Thanks for reading and writing.
Obviously these are serious allegations and I cannot assess their veracity, but if true this is more than a little problematic.
But one issue that you raise is the aspect of the delivery of services. Increasingly this, and not loyalty or ideology, will drive ordinary South Africans to push for change.

dc

]]> by: joeman http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-689 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:22:23 +0000 http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-689 votes have been rigged by the two camps. i know in our branch where a bgm for delegates was not held but our branch secretary, who is a speaker in the municipality, voted at pgc level.after the pgc, a whole contingency of politicians wthin the region came to legitimise his standing as a delegate. in any event, it is a pro Tman municipality which cannot even deliver a simple service like water. abuse of state resources and time. votes have been rigged by the two camps. i know in our branch where a bgm for delegates was not held but our branch secretary, who is a speaker in the municipality, voted at pgc level.after the pgc, a whole contingency of politicians wthin the region came to legitimise his standing as a delegate. in any event, it is a pro Tman municipality which cannot even deliver a simple service like water. abuse of state resources and time.

]]> by: Derek Catsam http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-683 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:53:01 +0000 http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-683 Lee -- Thanks for your observations. Frankly, I'm not thrilled with either Zuma or Mbeki as the ANC president. Mbeki because of the fact that I truly believe that he should step down, lest Big Man Syndrome afflict him. And I worry that Zuma has demagogic tendencies, and his his rape charges and corruption allegations are disquieting and will prove problematic down the road. This is why i hope for the emergence of the much-anticipated "third way." Thanks again for reading and commenting. dc Lee –
Thanks for your observations. Frankly, I’m not thrilled with either Zuma or Mbeki as the ANC president. Mbeki because of the fact that I truly believe that he should step down, lest Big Man Syndrome afflict him. And I worry that Zuma has demagogic tendencies, and his his rape charges and corruption allegations are disquieting and will prove problematic down the road. This is why i hope for the emergence of the much-anticipated “third way.”

Thanks again for reading and commenting.

dc

]]> by: lee http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-677 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:38:53 +0000 http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-677 Zuma is good but threy say in politics yu gotta choose who is less evil between the two.The americans call that the art of politics.Colateral damage is the ordre of the day ,but who will vote for a man who has destriyed the fabric of intergrity and trust .I call on all South A FRICANS TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THAT.What is good to sacrifice patriotism or individual gain at tneaxcpence of countries sovregn STOP AND THINK ABOUT THAT PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Zuma is good but threy say in politics yu gotta choose who is less evil between the two.The americans call that the art of politics.Colateral damage is the ordre of the day ,but who will vote for a man who has destriyed the fabric of intergrity and trust .I call on all South A FRICANS TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THAT.What is good to sacrifice patriotism or individual gain at tneaxcpence of countries sovregn STOP AND THINK ABOUT THAT PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

]]> by: lee http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-676 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:33:15 +0000 http://southafrica.foreignpolicyblogs.com/2007/12/05/the-rocky-road-to-polokwane/#comment-676 what isof much interest is that Mbeki has been potraid as the sacrificed lamp yet many have benefitrd using Mbeki.The media has paint him (Mbeki )as a vilian.Their 2 sides of a coin please. what isof much interest is that Mbeki has been potraid as the sacrificed lamp yet many have benefitrd using Mbeki.The media has paint him (Mbeki )as a vilian.Their 2 sides of a coin please.

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